Symon 1 Report post Posted July 18, 2011 Add another one. Had a look at a white M3 with Competition Pack and fantastic 7speed DCT semi auto box. Really, really nice and very tempting indeed. Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e using Tapatalk Do it, I would if I could afford to. Maybe not in white, but they do seem to suit it better than most cars, especially when they have the black roof and wheels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigjim 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2011 never had one, never wanted one. i've been to bmw world in munich though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symon 1 Report post Posted July 18, 2011 Thats the thing, I didn't want one for years. Now I have one, I can't see me going back to Alfa anytime soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigjim 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2011 Thats the thing, I didn't want one for years. Now I have one, I can't see me going back to Alfa anytime soon. just as well i haven't got any mates who've got them, else i'd be going, let us have a drive. then i'd be like you, i never knew i wanted one till i had a go in one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brackenfox 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2011 I had an E36 328 for just over a year, which is a pretty long time for me where cars are concerned! Very impressive car - nippy, handled nicely, well built, not even that bad on petrol considering it was a 2.8 litre straight six. A really well rounded package. Couldn't really fault it at all! But my god, was it boring! No real character or involvement in the drive. Don't miss it even slightly! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symon 1 Report post Posted July 19, 2011 I was expecting my 528 to be a bit boring and lacking in character, but it isn't. It will go sideways when you want it, the engine sounds great, and depending on whether you are driving fast or just cruising it does either very well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jhc 28 Report post Posted July 19, 2011 throw the mtech suspension pack into that mix and you have a surprisingly nimble car in the twisties too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symon 1 Report post Posted July 19, 2011 throw the mtech suspension pack into that mix and you have a surprisingly nimble car in the twisties too. It is good enough as it is, and rides over potholes really well. I wouldn't want to ruin the ride by stiffening it up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
divadiva 15 Report post Posted July 19, 2011 I do like beemers...and don't understand the negetivity about them! I had a 320 Coupe SE (silver with red leather) before my current alfa - it was a gorgeous car and I loved driving it but my passion is for Italian cars Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symon 1 Report post Posted July 20, 2011 My average mileage over the last few weeks. This is mixed driving, some motorway, some stop start. Aint bad for a big car with a biggish petrol engine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morgan 46 Report post Posted July 20, 2011 my passion is for Italian cars I thought your passion was for me! I'm crushed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smaky 73 Report post Posted July 24, 2011 I do like beemers...and don't understand the negetivity about them! Over-rated, overpriced and suprisingly poor design on the rear brakes, rear springs snap easier than tooth picks, front shocks have more leaks than Wales and that nasty compact driving area. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithyboy 1 Report post Posted August 5, 2011 I do like beemers...and don't understand the negetivity about them! Over-rated, overpriced and suprisingly poor design on the rear brakes, rear springs snap easier than tooth picks, front shocks have more leaks than Wales and that nasty compact driving area. All of them? OK BMW experts, some E36 questions: 1. Is a 318i really gutless? 2. Is the rear legroom any good (if there's a six footer in the driver's seat, can someone with legs fit behind him?)? 3. How does a small six cylinder car compare to a 156 TS on fuel consumption? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symon 1 Report post Posted August 5, 2011 I do like beemers...and don't understand the negetivity about them! Over-rated, overpriced and suprisingly poor design on the rear brakes, rear springs snap easier than tooth picks, front shocks have more leaks than Wales and that nasty compact driving area. All of them? OK BMW experts, some E36 questions: 1. Is a 318i really gutless? 2. Is the rear legroom any good (if there's a six footer in the driver's seat, can someone with legs fit behind him?)? 3. How does a small six cylinder car compare to a 156 TS on fuel consumption? 1. Not gutless as such, more "Unremarkable" 2. It isn't great but ok on a small journey. 3.Don't know, and i think plenty of other car makers would like to know the answer too. Not sure I agree with Smakys comments either. Despite being 13 years old my E39 feels pretty much Bomb proof. Compared to an S reg E class Merc at work the build quality and rust protection is far better. You would't expect to see a rusty Merc. But this one has more holes than a Bangkok brothel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithyboy 1 Report post Posted August 5, 2011 1. Not gutless as such, more "Unremarkable" 2. It isn't great but ok on a small journey. 3.Don't know, and i think plenty of other car makers would like to know the answer too. Not sure I agree with Smakys comments either. Despite being 13 years old my E39 feels pretty much Bomb proof. Compared to an S reg E class Merc at work the build quality and rust protection is far better. You would't expect to see a rusty Merc. But this one has more holes than a Bangkok brothel. Mercs seem to have more rust issues than anything else apart from Ford Kas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symon 1 Report post Posted August 5, 2011 Fiestas are pretty bad too. However our Puma is pretty much Rust free, aparrently Fords made in Germany are rust proofed better than those made in Spain. Alfa 156's rust badly too, or at least my last one did. It put me off Alfa a bit to be honest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithyboy 1 Report post Posted August 5, 2011 Fiestas are pretty bad too. However our Puma is pretty much Rust free, aparrently Fords made in Germany are rust proofed better than those made in Spain. Alfa 156's rust badly too, or at least my last one did. It put me off Alfa a bit to be honest. That's been true of Fords for years. Ghia versions of any given model were usually German-built and were far less rust prone that pov-spec British-built cars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redmatt75 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2011 I have a love-hate relationship with Beemers, they've made some of my favourite cars, and also some of my least favourite. Favourites: E30 M3 (of course) Anything with a 70's 80's shark nose - E12, E24, E21 etc Most Alpinas E39 M5 Z8 - apparently drives like a dog, but it looks fabulous Z1 - thinking mans 70s/80s supercar? Least Favourites: 1-series hatch. Clarkson was right, it looks like a breadvan E90 3-series. Bland to start with, but made worse by utter ubiquity. I'm simply sick of looking at them. X5: Ewww! X3: Ewww! X1: Ewww! X6: Ewww! (a pattern starting to emerge here....) Having said that, I'm a bit of a 16year old fanboy here, as I've only ever owned one Beemer, an E60 520D MSport, and only ever driven one other type, an E90 320D. The fiver was comfortable to sit in, hideously hard riding (far worse than my TI), well build, handled very well, remarkably economical, a tad slow. In summary, easy to admire, and hard to fall in love with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morgan 46 Report post Posted August 11, 2011 I must admit, I have similar feelings to Matt about modern BMWs. I've owned a few nice Bimmers over the years, but they've all been of the good-looking variety (i.e. before Chris Bangle rocked up and vomited over the drawing board). Of all the BMWs I've owned, my favourite was an E38 740i, which was an absolute beast of a sports limo! PS: Just to be really geeky, Bimmer is the nickname for BMW cars. Beemer is the nickname for BMW motorbikes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redmatt75 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2011 Old school 7-series bimmers (I stand corrected) are cool, especially if they have mahooosive wheels. The bangle ones are a bit off, as you say The E46 coupe was also quite a pretty car. I actually prefer them in boggo 330 Ci form to the E46 M3, which is a bit 'steroidal'.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostyDog 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2011 That said, we had an M-sport 320d as a courtesy car last year and I hated it. Very narrow power band, absolutely shocking ride quality, dreadfully uncomfortable seats and fairly poxy economy. Thats mad, cos ours has been nothing but awesome, it's the E92 Coupe version though, I was discussing this with Al the other night and he said much the same as you. How can the saloon and the coupe be so different? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redmatt75 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 That said, we had an M-sport 320d as a courtesy car last year and I hated it. Very narrow power band, absolutely shocking ride quality, dreadfully uncomfortable seats and fairly poxy economy. Thats mad, cos ours has been nothing but awesome, it's the E92 Coupe version though, I was discussing this with Al the other night and he said much the same as you. How can the saloon and the coupe be so different? If someone were to hold a gun to my head, hand me a massive wodge of cash, march me into a BMW dealership, and force me to choose a new one, it would be an E92 coupe (or possibly a 1-seriesM, which look pretty good) P.S., if somebody actually WANTS to hand me a massive wodge of cash and force me to buy a new BMW, I can PM you my details.. (please) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bacon 0 Report post Posted August 14, 2011 LOVE this e34 m5 http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2927525.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redmatt75 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2011 LOVE this e34 m5 http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2927525.htm Good spot bacon. Future classic (actually current classic really) That muppet hamster should have got that for his 7k second hand challenge on Top Gear.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz 29 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 M cars are cool. I even like the 1M I'd kill for a Z8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites