sportyone 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 Hello Smaky, could you help with a small discription as to how & where to connect the multiecuscan software to my 2001 156 selespeed to check & calibrate ?? I'm having dramas getting it to select 3rd & 4th, previous owner fiddled about with it, without diag support. may need a re calibration & adjustment ? I bought all the gear, PC, Multiecuscan tool software, cables etc, including a 3pin cable to suit my 98 spider as well, but can't even get anything it to connect ? Is the connection down beside the steering wheel ? Your help is really needed mate, cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smaky 73 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 Remove the cover to the right of the steering wheel (the one with the con pocket) and you'll see the socket at the top. Connect the cable and turn the ignition to MAR. Select the Model and ECU you wish to connect to. From there it's all self explanatory on MES, the main thing you'll need is to check the clutch length, which should be 28 - 28.5mm then change tabs and run the EOL calibration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smaky 73 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 Some Screenshots to aid you... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sportyone 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) Gee thank Smaky, bit confused as to which parameter to use for clutch 28-28.5 there seem the be 2 items for clutch travel ? do you have to do the when engine is hot or cold ? cheers PS, do you mind if I ask where I saw you had posted with fotos, some of the procedure for adjust this clutch thingie ? Edited March 26, 2015 by sportyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smaky 73 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 cold and plate TRAVEL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sportyone 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 thanks, got 2 brake lights on dash that stay on one is ABS the other sort of brake shoes, the speedo does not work either, could all these be related & also could this be causing a fail to able to change up through & to 3rd & 4th ? Only error that shows is speedo sensor something ? cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smaky 73 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Are you parked with the engine running and trying to go to 3rd and 4th? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sportyone 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Are you parked with the engine running and trying to go to 3rd and 4th? Well no, when l have driven it up the road, would not change from 2nd to 3rd on so on ? could it be something to do with the speedo not working, like perhaps a sensor thinking the car is not moving fast enough ? previous owner had been fiddling or working on selespeed could he knocked something or not put some connector on wrong ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smaky 73 Report post Posted March 28, 2015 If there is a mismatch between the clutch speed and crank speed sensors then it would refuse, if you also have no speedo then yes this could also prevent the changes as the ABS will not be telling the engine ECU the correct roadspeed, so the Engine will not be telling the gearbox that it is in the correct range for an upshift. But the most likely thing is the clutch rod will be too short and not disengaging the clutch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sportyone 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2015 Mr Smaky, is there anyway of pin pointing which wheel speed/ABS sensor could be the one playing up ? I will try to adjust the clutch rod again in the daylight. could you please highlite in a screen shot of the multiecuscan page exactly which is the correct tab to be adjusting & which is higher & lower turns in or out ? ? thanks heaps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smaky 73 Report post Posted March 29, 2015 in the picture above, it's the line above the one highlighted that you need, as for the ABS sensor, if your speedo is working then that rules out those as a possible fault, but normally it is the front left which causes the issues. And winding it out lengthens it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sportyone 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) No Smaky speedo is NOT working ! thought I had a win today, got all 5 gears manually, without driving, no errors, however when I started engine & moved off, the EM light came on & l COULD NOT CHANGE UP ! Error light came on, ABS & brake light too & ECU says it did not receive info from speed sensor, so fault light came on. For some reason even though I have full reg version, MES wont tell me WHICH speed sensor is causing the fault !! Grabbed a couple from the front of a car at wreckers today, any simple way of testing the sensors without fully removing the ones on my car ? can't use an ohms meter, don't know how , sorry, l am dumb ! Edited March 30, 2015 by sportyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smaky 73 Report post Posted March 30, 2015 That is the only way. If the ABS is coming up then can you connect to ABS with MES??? If not the check the ABS fuse on the +ve battery terminal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sportyone 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) 50amp ABS fuse on battery seems fine, s'pose I will swap a wheel speed sensor with one I got from wrecker, be a pain if I have swap out them all ? gotta take the panel in guard etc off ! what other reason would the ABS & brake light be staying on, with the speedo not working are they all linked ? why are all these things so critical, got the selespeed right but the now this stuff happening ! so it won't drive ! how can I test the ABS unit itself ? my MES I think tells me I need a different cable to check it ? which cable would you be able to tell me please ? Edited March 30, 2015 by sportyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smaky 73 Report post Posted March 31, 2015 It may be a sensor OR wheel bearing, but first replace the fuse, clear the ABS fault code, take it for a test drive, if the code is still on AFTER the drive then conside swapping sensors or wheel bearings, but even then ensure the sensors are not covered in rust particles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sportyone 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) I don't have the special cable or modified one to check ABS Using MES. Have you ever modified a VAG COM cable for this job ? I have a spare ? just checked front two L & R hand speed sensors at the connections in engine bay, they are fine ? but wish to check rear ones, where would the rear connectors be situated please. Edited April 1, 2015 by sportyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sportyone 0 Report post Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) Mr Smaky, if your using MES what cables & adaptors do you use to connect to the ABS on your selespeeds ? Have you a special adaptor or did you modify one ? Please ? Edited April 2, 2015 by sportyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smaky 73 Report post Posted April 2, 2015 You can get these... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-EcuScan-MultiEcuScan-adapter-cable-full-set-fiat-multi-ecu-scan-/121600096594?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c4fee3952 hopefully you can find a seller in Oz. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sportyone 0 Report post Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) You can get these... http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1c4fee3952 hopefully you can find a seller in Oz. yeah but, that seller won't post the australia for some reason, doesn't help right now, need to get the car rolling again ASAP ! thanks anyway Smaky Edited April 2, 2015 by sportyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smaky 73 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 That was an image to show you what you need, if you search down there then you may find some local to you for sale Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sportyone 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) thanks Mr Smaky, you & others on here have helped me greatly, got it all up & running great now, after a sensor change & a 15amp fuse hidden away up high under dash which fixed Speedo, ABS & Brake light etc. however whilst chasing the speed sensor problem, I also found a scored ended sensor, on gearbox . . . . bugger, will need to replace the GB & clutch possibly now I have found a car at a wreckers with a 120,000 klms gearbox with a speed sensor not scored. Do you reckon, the ex wrecker gearbox could be ok ? surely they last a reasonable time Edited April 21, 2015 by sportyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smaky 73 Report post Posted April 21, 2015 That scored sensor will be the Clutch Speed sensor (brass colour and red socket) which was the one I was telling you to check, if that is damaged then you DO have a failed front bearing, which WILL require a replacement/rebuild of the gearbox and a new clutch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sportyone 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) OK, so what sort of cost does that involve Mr Smaky ? Is this a common fault of alfas ? what if I found a gearbox at a wrecker without a damaged sensor in it ? freaking hell !, how long does the alfa gearbox last for, I have a toyota celica with well over 420,000 klms on it with no problems ? Edited April 21, 2015 by sportyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smaky 73 Report post Posted April 22, 2015 IO have Seles with over 250,000 miles on their original boxes because I have serviced them correctly and on time, I've also seen boxes fail like yours at around 60,000 miles because "specialists" don't know what to when a sele comes through the door. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sportyone 0 Report post Posted April 23, 2015 Ok, I accept the fact that you know your stuff Mr Smaky & thank goodness, you certainly helped me & many out on here. What sort of things need to to be done with the Alfa sele gearboxes to keep them going well longer then ? With a box with suspected bearing problems like mine, how long will it go for & what sort of $$$ are involved in fixing it. Is a box from a wreck worth trying ? Out here at breakers are mostly just in cars that have done belt damage and people just junk them rather than repair them ? cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
